Post by Meng Lao on Sept 18, 2006 0:39:29 GMT -5
Lock the doors and put the kids to bed it's time for the Meng Dynasty #16!
I've been noticing on the WWO board a lot of bitching and moaning about people giving the WWO brass tip on how to better run their fed..I myself have offered my opinion..I can't help but think that some of the rather harsh comments that have followed about not wanting the advice or stop living in the past..yadda yadda yadda..has be partially directed at me..which I have no problem with. After all everyone is entitled to their opinion. But I feel that WWO and other Rp feds would do wise to listen to people who've been around at this Rp wrestling thing for a while and have watched many Rp feds crumble and die..and believe me I've seen a few feds come and go...XWA, MWF, CWF, JEWCW, XCW, DWF, RWC, AWX, etc...need I say more?
First off, a Rp wrestling fed should be about wrestling and nothing else..when I enter a Rp wrestling room and there's people in there I expect to see a wrestling match, not someone sitting around their fictious mansion watching their fed on TV while banging their little valet ho...I don't want to see a bunch of "wrestlers" sitting around in a fictious bar or nightclub talking about nothing. Krull Valhalla coined a phrase concering the non wrestling crap that goes on in Rp feds..the phrase is "Coffee talk bullshit" and it has no place in an Rp wrestling fed. A Rp wrestling fed should be run the same way a Rt wrestling fed is run..which means that what goes on at home or outside the ring stays at home or outside the ring...In the WWE..yes Kandi I know you hate the comparison thing but...in the WWE you never see stuff in the storylines about anyone's personal life..unless it makes for a good storyline and both sides are willing to participate (ie: the Edge VS Matt Hardy feud or Chavo & Vicky Guerrero VS Rey Mysterio feud) other than that personal lives are just that personal.
My next point is about contracts..and yes Kandi I know this subject irritates you too...Kandi stated on the WWO board that contracts are apart of the rp..no they aren't...if say I joined the WWO and we did an in ring segment where the owner of the WWO came out to the ring and introduced me and I came out to the ring and signed the contract in the ring then I turned and attacked the WWO owner then got on the mic and declaired that I was taking over the WWO then in that instance the contract becomes apart of the rp..but having to sign a fictious contract to be allowed to Rp in the fed and then to have to post X number of promos and X number of matches in the course of a week or month or be suspended in violation of the fictious contract or being limited in what you can say or do in your promos and matches due to a stipulation in the fictious contract then the contract is not an Rp it'a a tool of control over the people in your fed...sure there has to be rules in an Rp fed but the rules can be inforced without a stupid fictious contract.
My third point is about the bitching going on concerning forced Rp..I see absolutely nothing wrong with forced Rp as long as it's done right..here are a few examples of right and wrong forced Rp and in the examples my opponent will be Kandi..and no I am not singling you out in anyway Kandi..I figured that since I mentioned your name in this edition that I would use you as my opponent...here goes..bear with me my ring skills are a little rusty..lol.
1. right way
Meng is in the ring and says to Kandi:
*The bell rings.. I charge across the ring drilling you from behind in the back of the head with a stiff forearm shot as you stretch in the corner you violently slam chest first into the turnbuckles and slumps face first in the corner..the iirate fans shower me with a chorus of "boos" over my rough treatment of my female opponent..I continue with my onslaught with a series martial arts kicks to your prone back and ribs..you crumple to the mat writhing in pain...I grab a handful of your hair and violently drags you to the middle of the ring..I then shove your head between my knees going for a jump piledriver..I stop momentiarly to flip off a few fans in the front row then wraps my arms around you waist..*
as you can see in the above I not only force a beating on Kandi but i added some selling as well as crowd reaction..but even though I rped a harsh beating on Kandi she didn't come off really as being no match to me but she came off as at the moment being overwhelmed..and the post is left open at the for Kandi to counter the piledriver with a back body drop.
Wrong way
Meng is in the ring and says to Kandi:
*The bell rings.. I charge across the ring you stand there like a deer caught in the headlights of and oncoming truck..I slam into you with a violent forearm to the nose breaking your nose sending blood everywhere..you scream and beg for me to stop as tears stream down your face..you continue to sob in the corner as I pummel your stomach and ribcage with a barage of martial arts kicks your ribs can be hear snaping with each kick..you slump to the mat coughing up massive amounts of blood..the fans roar with approval as they enourage me with chants of "Kill the Bitch!"...I grab your hair ripping out handfuls as I drag you to the middle of the ring..I shove your face in my crotch mimicking a blowjob as the fans roar with laughter and chant "She's a Cock Whore"..I then shove your head between my knees and drills you head first into the mat with a jump piledriver snapping your neck like a twig.*
as you can see in this post I practically killed Kandi..I forced injury after injury on her..I had the fans making derogitory chant after derogitory at her and threw in a mock blowjob to boot..this entire post made Kandi look foolish, weak and forced injuries on her plus the post wasn't left open for a possible counter..about all that would have been left for Kandi to do in her following post would have been to rp her own death.
2. Ok lets say that Kandi has been schedueled to win this match..and since I have no idea what Kandi uses as a finisher..lets say it's a Leg Drop O Doom from the top rope...and lets say that my post will be the final one of the match and in this post I sell the legdrop and then rps the 3 count..
right way
Meng is in the ring and says to Kandi:
*The leg drop from the top connects across my throat..I clutch at my throat in a semi concious haze as you wearily drape your arm across my chest..the ref drops down into position and slaps the mat...1....2....3!!! The stunned crowd roars with approval that you over came the odds and did the unthinkable and pinned the monster known as Meng Lao.*
as you can see I did what was asked of me and did the job and I even threw in crowd reaction to make the win seem like David slaying Goliath.
Wrong way
Meng is in the ring and says to Kandi:
*The leg drop from the top connects having zero effect..you pounce on top of me for the pin..I power out of the pin attempt at the count of one tossing you off of me with ease..I get back to my feet as you charge off the ropes..I catch you coming off the ropes in the "Deathstrike"(Tongan Death Grip) you sink to the mat unable to fight off the hold finally your jaw snaps under the pressure and you immediately tap out.*
as you can see here I abandoned the planned finish and went into business for myself..I also broke Kandi's jaw in the process. I managed to put Kandi out with an injury and totally fuck up any planned future storylines.
see there's a right way to do things and a wrong way..as long as the forced Rp is done in a respectful way there's nothing wrong with it.
I have one other Rp tip to offer..I know everyone has their own styles of Rping but one thing I have noticed is that most people go into waaay to much detail describing the wrestling moves they are doing..if you are doing a drop toe hold then say "takes you down with a drop toe hold as you come off the ropes" don't go into a long winded discription of the hold "as you come off the ropes I drop to the mat and traps your left ankle between my feet and rolls my body weight taking you down to the mat on your stomach." I was looking at some Rp a little while ago and I think the move being done was hamerlock or wristlock I'm not sure which but the discription was so long winded and discribed so poorly I wasn't sure what move was being done. The point is keep it simple..most people who take part in and read wrestling Rp are wrestling fans and know or should know the names and what each hold does..if you use a known finisher but but have given it a different name just do what I did above..I use the Tongan death grip as one of my primary finishers but I call it the Deathstrike so when I use it in a Rp I post it as above "Deathstrike" (Tongan Death Grip) that way there's no confusion..of course that is unless whoever is reading the rp has never heard of Haku/Meng or his choice of finisher.
I have one final point to make and this edition is done. I noticed reciently a new addition to the WWO membership..Bubba Rilley...now maybe he's been part of the roster for a while under a different name I don't know..but have a warning for WWO management..if Bubba doesn't have any power in the WWO you should keep it that way..Why is that you ask? Here's the answer..2 people in my opinion were responsible for the destruction of a once great Rp fed called XWA the names of those people are Alexis Santos and Bubba Rilley..yes that Bubba Rilley..When I first started to take notice of wrestling Rp was during a down period in XWA..which is no big deal..many Rp fed go through down periods it just happens..during this down period Bubba and Alexis were MIA..and one man took it on himself to keep the fed rolling..his name..Krull Valhalla..Krull created a few new characters and dueled with himself and in the process put out some of the best Rp XWA had ever seen..Krull came up with an invasion storyline of JEWCW invading XWA and also pulled off a PPV..well it was around this time that Bubba and Alexis crawled out of whatever hole they were in they saw that Krull's characters and storylines were generating a ton of interest and in a act of sheer brilliance(that was laced with sacrasm for those who didn't detect it) Bubba and Alexis promptly nixed the storyline and fired Krull...what did they do that you ask? Simple..The invasion angle wasn't one of their ideas and if it wasn't one of their ideas they didn't want it to succeed in anyway shape or form...but it doesn't end there...enter another extremely talented Rper named Carnage the white devil...Carnage took over a forgotten character ..a character named Maximum Carnage complete with a Hugh Jackman Wolverine avatar..Carnage dropped the Wolverine gimmick along with the name "Maximum" and called himself Carnage the White Devil..Carnage became an out of control, substance abusing, rebel and had some fantastic matches against Kane Darkheart..infact thosr matches were about the only one going on at that time..but guess what happened..Carnage's drug filled promos were a little too risque for Bubba's and Alexis's liking and Carnage was fired..For some unknown reason Carnage remained loyal to XWA even after that don't ask me why. Many Rpers got fed up with the paranoid way Bubba and Alexis ran things and left and the XWA was crippled after that..sure in hung on for another year or so but it never recovered. Management changed hands several times but XWA couldn't get away from the Paranoid label it recieved during the Bubba/Alexis regime and in the end it died a slow death..AWX and Bonesaw Jack took shots at XWA in an effort to prompt XWA loyals to defend their once great fed but it didn't matter XWA just wasn't up for the fight.
What I'm saying to the WWO management is don't give Bubba the chance to destroy your fed..If he currently has no power don't make the mistake of giving him any..if he does have any power take it away from him now before it's too late..don't let Bubba spread through your fed like the cancer he is and destroy everything you've worked for.
Thats it for this edition of the Meng Dynasty and as always feel free to respond to anything you read here.
Meng F'N Lao
[/center]I've been noticing on the WWO board a lot of bitching and moaning about people giving the WWO brass tip on how to better run their fed..I myself have offered my opinion..I can't help but think that some of the rather harsh comments that have followed about not wanting the advice or stop living in the past..yadda yadda yadda..has be partially directed at me..which I have no problem with. After all everyone is entitled to their opinion. But I feel that WWO and other Rp feds would do wise to listen to people who've been around at this Rp wrestling thing for a while and have watched many Rp feds crumble and die..and believe me I've seen a few feds come and go...XWA, MWF, CWF, JEWCW, XCW, DWF, RWC, AWX, etc...need I say more?
First off, a Rp wrestling fed should be about wrestling and nothing else..when I enter a Rp wrestling room and there's people in there I expect to see a wrestling match, not someone sitting around their fictious mansion watching their fed on TV while banging their little valet ho...I don't want to see a bunch of "wrestlers" sitting around in a fictious bar or nightclub talking about nothing. Krull Valhalla coined a phrase concering the non wrestling crap that goes on in Rp feds..the phrase is "Coffee talk bullshit" and it has no place in an Rp wrestling fed. A Rp wrestling fed should be run the same way a Rt wrestling fed is run..which means that what goes on at home or outside the ring stays at home or outside the ring...In the WWE..yes Kandi I know you hate the comparison thing but...in the WWE you never see stuff in the storylines about anyone's personal life..unless it makes for a good storyline and both sides are willing to participate (ie: the Edge VS Matt Hardy feud or Chavo & Vicky Guerrero VS Rey Mysterio feud) other than that personal lives are just that personal.
My next point is about contracts..and yes Kandi I know this subject irritates you too...Kandi stated on the WWO board that contracts are apart of the rp..no they aren't...if say I joined the WWO and we did an in ring segment where the owner of the WWO came out to the ring and introduced me and I came out to the ring and signed the contract in the ring then I turned and attacked the WWO owner then got on the mic and declaired that I was taking over the WWO then in that instance the contract becomes apart of the rp..but having to sign a fictious contract to be allowed to Rp in the fed and then to have to post X number of promos and X number of matches in the course of a week or month or be suspended in violation of the fictious contract or being limited in what you can say or do in your promos and matches due to a stipulation in the fictious contract then the contract is not an Rp it'a a tool of control over the people in your fed...sure there has to be rules in an Rp fed but the rules can be inforced without a stupid fictious contract.
My third point is about the bitching going on concerning forced Rp..I see absolutely nothing wrong with forced Rp as long as it's done right..here are a few examples of right and wrong forced Rp and in the examples my opponent will be Kandi..and no I am not singling you out in anyway Kandi..I figured that since I mentioned your name in this edition that I would use you as my opponent...here goes..bear with me my ring skills are a little rusty..lol.
1. right way
Meng is in the ring and says to Kandi:
*The bell rings.. I charge across the ring drilling you from behind in the back of the head with a stiff forearm shot as you stretch in the corner you violently slam chest first into the turnbuckles and slumps face first in the corner..the iirate fans shower me with a chorus of "boos" over my rough treatment of my female opponent..I continue with my onslaught with a series martial arts kicks to your prone back and ribs..you crumple to the mat writhing in pain...I grab a handful of your hair and violently drags you to the middle of the ring..I then shove your head between my knees going for a jump piledriver..I stop momentiarly to flip off a few fans in the front row then wraps my arms around you waist..*
as you can see in the above I not only force a beating on Kandi but i added some selling as well as crowd reaction..but even though I rped a harsh beating on Kandi she didn't come off really as being no match to me but she came off as at the moment being overwhelmed..and the post is left open at the for Kandi to counter the piledriver with a back body drop.
Wrong way
Meng is in the ring and says to Kandi:
*The bell rings.. I charge across the ring you stand there like a deer caught in the headlights of and oncoming truck..I slam into you with a violent forearm to the nose breaking your nose sending blood everywhere..you scream and beg for me to stop as tears stream down your face..you continue to sob in the corner as I pummel your stomach and ribcage with a barage of martial arts kicks your ribs can be hear snaping with each kick..you slump to the mat coughing up massive amounts of blood..the fans roar with approval as they enourage me with chants of "Kill the Bitch!"...I grab your hair ripping out handfuls as I drag you to the middle of the ring..I shove your face in my crotch mimicking a blowjob as the fans roar with laughter and chant "She's a Cock Whore"..I then shove your head between my knees and drills you head first into the mat with a jump piledriver snapping your neck like a twig.*
as you can see in this post I practically killed Kandi..I forced injury after injury on her..I had the fans making derogitory chant after derogitory at her and threw in a mock blowjob to boot..this entire post made Kandi look foolish, weak and forced injuries on her plus the post wasn't left open for a possible counter..about all that would have been left for Kandi to do in her following post would have been to rp her own death.
2. Ok lets say that Kandi has been schedueled to win this match..and since I have no idea what Kandi uses as a finisher..lets say it's a Leg Drop O Doom from the top rope...and lets say that my post will be the final one of the match and in this post I sell the legdrop and then rps the 3 count..
right way
Meng is in the ring and says to Kandi:
*The leg drop from the top connects across my throat..I clutch at my throat in a semi concious haze as you wearily drape your arm across my chest..the ref drops down into position and slaps the mat...1....2....3!!! The stunned crowd roars with approval that you over came the odds and did the unthinkable and pinned the monster known as Meng Lao.*
as you can see I did what was asked of me and did the job and I even threw in crowd reaction to make the win seem like David slaying Goliath.
Wrong way
Meng is in the ring and says to Kandi:
*The leg drop from the top connects having zero effect..you pounce on top of me for the pin..I power out of the pin attempt at the count of one tossing you off of me with ease..I get back to my feet as you charge off the ropes..I catch you coming off the ropes in the "Deathstrike"(Tongan Death Grip) you sink to the mat unable to fight off the hold finally your jaw snaps under the pressure and you immediately tap out.*
as you can see here I abandoned the planned finish and went into business for myself..I also broke Kandi's jaw in the process. I managed to put Kandi out with an injury and totally fuck up any planned future storylines.
see there's a right way to do things and a wrong way..as long as the forced Rp is done in a respectful way there's nothing wrong with it.
I have one other Rp tip to offer..I know everyone has their own styles of Rping but one thing I have noticed is that most people go into waaay to much detail describing the wrestling moves they are doing..if you are doing a drop toe hold then say "takes you down with a drop toe hold as you come off the ropes" don't go into a long winded discription of the hold "as you come off the ropes I drop to the mat and traps your left ankle between my feet and rolls my body weight taking you down to the mat on your stomach." I was looking at some Rp a little while ago and I think the move being done was hamerlock or wristlock I'm not sure which but the discription was so long winded and discribed so poorly I wasn't sure what move was being done. The point is keep it simple..most people who take part in and read wrestling Rp are wrestling fans and know or should know the names and what each hold does..if you use a known finisher but but have given it a different name just do what I did above..I use the Tongan death grip as one of my primary finishers but I call it the Deathstrike so when I use it in a Rp I post it as above "Deathstrike" (Tongan Death Grip) that way there's no confusion..of course that is unless whoever is reading the rp has never heard of Haku/Meng or his choice of finisher.
I have one final point to make and this edition is done. I noticed reciently a new addition to the WWO membership..Bubba Rilley...now maybe he's been part of the roster for a while under a different name I don't know..but have a warning for WWO management..if Bubba doesn't have any power in the WWO you should keep it that way..Why is that you ask? Here's the answer..2 people in my opinion were responsible for the destruction of a once great Rp fed called XWA the names of those people are Alexis Santos and Bubba Rilley..yes that Bubba Rilley..When I first started to take notice of wrestling Rp was during a down period in XWA..which is no big deal..many Rp fed go through down periods it just happens..during this down period Bubba and Alexis were MIA..and one man took it on himself to keep the fed rolling..his name..Krull Valhalla..Krull created a few new characters and dueled with himself and in the process put out some of the best Rp XWA had ever seen..Krull came up with an invasion storyline of JEWCW invading XWA and also pulled off a PPV..well it was around this time that Bubba and Alexis crawled out of whatever hole they were in they saw that Krull's characters and storylines were generating a ton of interest and in a act of sheer brilliance(that was laced with sacrasm for those who didn't detect it) Bubba and Alexis promptly nixed the storyline and fired Krull...what did they do that you ask? Simple..The invasion angle wasn't one of their ideas and if it wasn't one of their ideas they didn't want it to succeed in anyway shape or form...but it doesn't end there...enter another extremely talented Rper named Carnage the white devil...Carnage took over a forgotten character ..a character named Maximum Carnage complete with a Hugh Jackman Wolverine avatar..Carnage dropped the Wolverine gimmick along with the name "Maximum" and called himself Carnage the White Devil..Carnage became an out of control, substance abusing, rebel and had some fantastic matches against Kane Darkheart..infact thosr matches were about the only one going on at that time..but guess what happened..Carnage's drug filled promos were a little too risque for Bubba's and Alexis's liking and Carnage was fired..For some unknown reason Carnage remained loyal to XWA even after that don't ask me why. Many Rpers got fed up with the paranoid way Bubba and Alexis ran things and left and the XWA was crippled after that..sure in hung on for another year or so but it never recovered. Management changed hands several times but XWA couldn't get away from the Paranoid label it recieved during the Bubba/Alexis regime and in the end it died a slow death..AWX and Bonesaw Jack took shots at XWA in an effort to prompt XWA loyals to defend their once great fed but it didn't matter XWA just wasn't up for the fight.
What I'm saying to the WWO management is don't give Bubba the chance to destroy your fed..If he currently has no power don't make the mistake of giving him any..if he does have any power take it away from him now before it's too late..don't let Bubba spread through your fed like the cancer he is and destroy everything you've worked for.
Thats it for this edition of the Meng Dynasty and as always feel free to respond to anything you read here.
Meng F'N Lao
